Lucy H. Yates

Lucy Helen Yates, the daughter of Henry Yates and Maria Sisling Yates, was born in Basford, Nottinghamshire in 1863. Her father was a partner in the lace manufacturing firm of Sisling & Yates of Nottingham. (1) By 1861 the company employed "21 men, 3 boys & 29 women". (2)

Yates began writing for the Girls' Own Paper and other periodicals, contributing both short stories and advice on cookery and housekeeping. Her first book was The Profession of Cookery from a French Point of View (1894). This was followed by A Handbook of Fish Cookery (1897) and The Convalescent's Diet (1901). Yates also wrote books about financial matters such as The Management of Money A Handbook of Finance for Women (1903). (3)

In 1905 Yates published The Model Kitchen as a guide to setting up a domestic kitchen in a modern urban flat. "She list all the necessary equipment, together with prices. This includes a refrigerator, the most expensive item, costing £6 6s. Other items deemed essential requirements consists of an asparagus boiler, a game pie dish, an omelette pan, a coffee mill and a cafeteria, a frying pan with a shield, a tea infuser, egg poacher, pastry cutters, glass lemon squeezer, gravy strainer, bread mixer, egg beater, can opener, apple corer, oyster knife, a refuse holder, sink tidy, fruit stoner, meat saw, a "Spong" chopper, grey granite enamel ware sauce pans and jugs and so on. Yates estimates that the cost of equipping a kitchen flat with all modern items should equate to around £16 6s 1d in today's currency this would amount to approximately £1,000 or slightly more." (4)

In November 1907, Charlotte Despard, Teresa Billington-Greig, Edith How-Martyn, Dora Marsden, Helena Normanton, Anne Cobden Sanderson, Katherine Vulliamy, Helen Fox, Muriel Matters, Octavia Lewin, Emma Sproson, Margaret Nevinson, Henria Williams, Constance Tite, Violet Tillard, Emily Duval left the Women's Social and Political Union (WSPU) to form the Women's Freedom League (WFL). Most of its members were socialists who wanted to work closely with the Labour Party who "regarded it as hypocritical for a movement for women's democracy to deny democracy to its own members." (5) Christabel Pankhurst attempted to play down the conflict. She stated, "please don't call it a split there has been no particular row... it is more of a parting of company." (6)

Lucy Yates also joined the WFL. The WFL wanted "a women's suffrage organisation independent of the political parties; an organisation run and controlled by women which would prioritise women's suffrage above all else; a campaign which would be intense and militant, and which would not end until women had achieved their demands - equal suffrage on the same terms as men." (7)

Charlotte Despard in front of the Women's Freedom League banner (17th June 1911)
Charlotte Despard in front of the Women's Freedom League banner (17th June 1911)

Violet Tillard became Assistant Organising Secretary of the organisation. She was active in promoting women's suffrage in newspapers. In one letter she pointed out the difference between the Women's Freedom League and the Women Social & Political Union. "The Women's Freedom League differs from the Women's Social and Political Union chiefly in the internal organisation, which in democratic; and in the fact that it is not part of its policy at present to interrupt Cabinet Ministers at meetings; but the societies at one in their aim the removal of the sex disability, and in their policy of opposing the Government at by-elections." (8)

In 1911, Lucy Helen Yates was residing at 123 Cheyne Walk, Chelsea, SW London with her 50-year-old sister
Amy Yates, an unemployed "Lady Gardener''. Lucy described herself on the census form as a journalist working on The Daily Mail. (9)

In April, 1914, Lucy H. Yates, gave a lecture on "The Spending Sex". "She dealt first with women as the spender of the family income, then with her rights and responsibilities in spending the municipal and national income. She spoke of the success of the working women in spending very limited means to the best advantage, because she has full control of what is put into her hands; in this way she learned administration; trouble began when the middle classes were reached, because of the dual control, and the fact that so few husbands take their wives into their confidence as to their income; among landed proprietors the control was completely in masculine hands. She urged that the wife should have entire control of the income allocated for household expenditure including dress and education; and that should be provided with a banking account; the system of payment by cheque was practical and orderly: a woman with a cheque book would be a more scientific spender than if she had loose coins which could be cajoled out of her pocket by tempting bargains. The man who did not trust his wife deserved all he got, and a woman was justified in her resentment of such treatment, financial disagreements were often at the root of the troubles in the Law Courts. In corporate spending, Miss Yates insisted, women must have control with men if poverty and destitution are all to be banished." (10)

Lucy Yates wrote articles for Women Freedom League's newspaper, The Vote. She argued for the removal of the injustice which ties a woman's hands with regard to money. She declared that it was the aim of the "greybeards of the last century" to put the inheritance of a daughter beyond her reach so far as the principal was concerned, and protests that, in view of changing conditions, this is manifestly unfair. "If she is considered able to choose a life-partner for herself she certainly might be allowed to choose an investment." The newspaper added: "The advice given is that women should be trained to proper judgement in financial affairs; ability to look ahead and prepare for future developments is needed by one sex as much as by the other. Handicapped women are prevented from acting for the best advantage of their children. It may be fairly claimed that the Suffrage movement has developed in women a true appreciation of the importance of the financial side of their Cause, and the desire to get the best possible result from the contents of their war chest." (11)

Along with people like Helena Normanton, Louisa Thomson-Price and Margaret Nevinson, she gave lectures to meetings of the WFL at Caxton Hall. It was pointed out that Yates lecture "The Spending Sex" was "quoted in nearly every London and Provincial paper". In June, 1914 she gave a lecture entitled, "Women and Financial Independence". (12)

In 1924, when Miss Lucy H.Yates was returning to England from Cape Town, South Africa, she gave her address as
63 Gloucester Crescent, London NW1. (13)

Other books by Yates included Modern Housecraft: the Art of Reasonable Living (1906), Successful Jam Making and Fruit Bottling (1909), The Successful Home Cook (1910), In Camp and Kitchen: A Handy Guide for Emigrants and Settlers (1912), The Gardener And The Cook (1912), What's Good to Eat (1926), Cooking for Two (1930), Marriage on Small Means (1931) and The Country Housewife's Book (1934).

Lucy Helen Yates died in 1935.

Primary Sources

(1) The Vote (13th January 1912)

At the end of the year it is customany to take stock in various ways and start the new year with many good resolutions. Whether the charge be true or not that women are frequently both weak in the matter of finance, Miss Lucy H. Yates, a well-known writer on women and their money matters, makes a strong appeal in The Standard for the removal of the injustice which ties a woman's hands with regard to money. She declares that it was the aim of the greybeards of the last century to put the inheritance of a daughter beyond her reach so far as the principal was concerned, and protests that, in view of changing conditions, this is manifestly unfair. "If she is considered able to choose a life-partner for herself she certainly might be allowed to choose an investment." The advice given is that women should be trained to proper judgement in financial affairs; ability to look ahead and prepare for future developments is needed by one sex as much as by the other. Handicapped women are prevented from acting for the best advantage of their children. It may be fairly claimed that the Suffrage movement has developed in women a true appreciation of the importance of the financial side of their Cause, and the desire to get the best possible result from the contents of their war chest.

(2) The Vote (8th April 1914)

At the last of our Discussion Meetings before Easter, Miss Lucy H. Yates, a well-known writer and advises on financial questions, gave a most interesting and thought provoking lecture on "The Spending Sex". She dealt first with women as the spender of the family income, then with her rights and responsibilities in spending the municipal and national income. She spoke of the success of the working women in spending very limited means to the best advantage, because she has full control of what is put into her hands; in this way she learned administration; trouble began when the middle classes were reached, because of the dual control, and the fact that so few husbands take their wives into their confidence as to their income; among landed proprietors the control was completely in masculine hands. She urged that the wife should have entire control of the income allocated for household expenditure including dress and education; and that should be provided with a banking account; the system of payment by cheque was practical and orderly: a woman with a cheque book would be a more scientific spender than if she had loose coins which could be cajoled out of her pocket by tempting bargains. The man who did not trust his wife deserved all he got, and a woman was justified in her resentment of such treatment, financial disagreements were often at the root of the troubles in the Law Courts. In corporate spending, Miss Yates insisted, women must have control with men if poverty and destitution are all to be banished. 

(3) The Vote (5th June 1914)

Next Wednesday afternoon we resume our weekly meetings at Caxton Hall, when the speakers will be Mrs M. W. Nevinson, on "The New Poor Law Orders as they Affect Women". The following Wednesday, Mrs Lucy H. Yates whose recent lecture on "The Spending Sex" at 1 Robert Street, was quoted in nearly every London and Provincial paper, will speak on "Women and Financial Independence". Miss Yates has a wide experience of financial matters, so her address should be of particular interest to women.

(4) Lucy Helen Yates (2008)

Lucy Helen Yates (1863-1935) was born in Nottingham, the daughter of a lacemaker. She began writing for the Girls' Own Paper and other periodicals, contributing both short stories and advice on cookery and housekeeping. Her first book was The Profession of Cookery from a French Point of View (!894), while The Convalescent's Diet appeared in 1901. She was a suffragist and gave lectures on 'The Financial Independence of Women', several of her books, such as The Management of Money A Handbook of Finance for Women (1903) and Business Matters for Women Simply Explained (1908) dealing with this subject. In 1912 she wrote  In Camp and Kitchen: A Handy Guide for Emigrants and Settlers (1912)  (she was at this point living in Cheyne Walk, Chelsea with her elder sister Amy). What's Good to Eat appeared in 1926 and Marriage on Small Means in 1931. She contributed to various periodicals and did some broadcasting for the BBC. The Country Housewife's Book (1934) was her last book.

(5) Lucy H. Yates, The Vote (16th July 1926)

It is unusual, even in these days, for a woman to wield such an influence in the business world, but in her case it was the more remarkable in that those great abilities were a treasure held in an earthen vessel of the frailest, most sorely afflicted type. Few people who heard her resonant voice speaking from a platform had any idea that to walk across a room was a painful, sometimes an impossible feat.

With unflinching courage she held to her duties to the last, and passed away able to say: "I have finished the work that Thou gavest me to do." That work has been to lift higher the banner of business integrity and to make the lot of every worker with whom she had anything to do a pleasant, healthful, interesting, and properly paid occupation.

But those who knew Mrs Thomson-Price as personal friend and literary comrade saw another side of her jewel-like personality. It was one fall of charm and unexpectedness. A little sketch, a few verses, a humorous recollection were always ready to light up the most ordinary subject. An ardent enthusiast, with very broad sympathies, she never stayed her hand when her pen could be used, nor her voice when speech could help any cause. 

(6) Emma Kay, Dining with the Victorians: A Delicious History (2015)

In 1905 Lucy H. Yates wrote the Model Kitchen as a guide to setting up a domestic kitchen in a modern urban flat. She list all the necessary equipment, together with prices. This includes a refrigerator, the most expensive item, costing £6 6s. Other items deemed essential requirements consists of an asparagus boiler, a game pie dish, an omelette pan, a coffee mill and a cafeteria, a frying pan with a shield, a tea infuser, egg poacher, pastry cutters, glass lemon squeezer, gravy strainer, bread mixer, egg beater, can opener, apple corer, oyster knife, a refuse holder, sink tidy, fruit stoner, meat saw, a "Spong" chopper, grey granite enamel ware sauce pans and jugs and so on. Yates estimates that the cost of equipping a kitchen flat with all modern items should equate to around £16 6s 1d in today's currency this would amount to approximately £1,000 or slightly more.

(7) Emma Kay, Dining with the Victorians: A Delicious History (2015)

Henry Yates (born 22 September 1828, Sneinton, Nottinghamshire) was the son of Penelope & Henry William Yates, a Non-Conformist lacemaker. One of 7 children, Henry Yates was working as a "Lace Designer" when he was in his early twenties.

In 1852, at Basford, Nottinghamshire, Henry Yates married Maria Sisling, the daughter of Maria & John Sisling (1808-1898), also a lace manufacturer.

In 1861, Henry Yates (junior) and his family were living next door to John Sisling (Maria's father) and his family in Sherwood Street Nottingham.

Henry Yates (Maria's father) was a partner in the lace manufacturing firm of Sisling & Yates of Nottingham. On the 1861 Census return, John Sisling stated that he employed "21 men, 3 boys & 29 women".

The union of Henry Yates (1828-1909) and Maria Sisling (1829-1909) produced 4 children:

(1) John Henry Yates (born 1853, Basford, Nottinghamshire - died 1904)

(2) William Sisling Yates (born 1858, Nottingham, Notts. - died 1943.)

(3) Amy Yates (born 1860, Nottingham, Notts. date of death unknown). Living with her sister Lucy at the time of the 1911 Census. Described as an unemployed "Lady Gardener".

(4) Lucy Helen Yates (born 1863, Basford, Nottinghamshire - died 1935)

There is a suggestion that Lucy's parents may have separated late in their marriage.

They were not living together at the time of the 1901 Census (Henry Yates was residing in a cottage in Sidmouth, Devon) and Henry Yates died in Honiton, Devon, in 1909. Henry's wife, Maria, died in Bingham, Nottinghamshire, in 1909.

Strangely, there is no record of the death of Lucy Helen Yates in English records.e.g. Death Registration, Probate, Wills.

I suppose there is a possibility that she died abroad or she married late in life.

On the 1901 Census, Lucy Helen Yates was residing in Barnet Vale, Hertfordshire, with her mother, Mrs Maria Yates, described on the census return as a 72 year-old widow changed to 'married' (her husband was still alive in 1901)
Lucy Helen Yates was described on the 1901 census return as "Author", aged 37.

In 1911, Lucy Helen Yates was residing at 123 Cheyne Walk, Chelsea, SW London with her 50-year-old sister
Amy Yates, an unemployed "Lady Gardener''. Lucy Helen Yates describes herself on the 1911 census form
as"Journalist" / 'Daily Mail'/ worker/ aged 47.

In 1924, when Miss Lucy H.Yates was returning to England from Cape Town, South Africa, she gave her address as
63 Gloucester Crescent, London NW1

On the Electoral Roll for South-West Pancras, compiled in 1934, the home address of Lucy Helen Yates is listed as
63 Gloucester Crescent, London NW1


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References

(1) David Simkin, Family History Research (28th April, 2023)

(2) Census Data (1861)

(3) Lucy Helen Yates (2008)

(4) Emma Kay, Dining with the Victorians: A Delicious History (2015)

(5) Martin Pugh, The Pankhursts (2001) page 167

(6) The Daily Chronicle (13th September 1907)

(7) Claire Louise Eustace, The Evolution of Women's Political Identities in the Women's Freedom League (1993) page 46

(8) Eastern Daily Press (21 August 1909)

(9) Census Data (1911)

(10) The Vote (8th April 1914)

(11) The Vote (13th January 1912)

(12) The Vote (5th June 1914)

(13) David Simkin, Family History Research (28th April, 2023)